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“How much does a website cost?” – a designer pricing survey

If there’s one thing nobody seems to want to talk about, it’s pricing. Most designers don’t publish their rates, and good luck getting someone to tell you how much their website cost them. 

The results of this situation is that it can be pretty hard for companies to know how much to spent on design. Spend too much, and you’ll be accused of wasting money like those $300,000 logos you read about. Spent too little, and you risk ending up with a crappy “my 14 year old nephew designed it” website.

So how can you find the sweet spot? I asked 40 of Folyo’s designers to answer a couple questions about their pricing strategies, and I hope the results will help you get a better picture of design prices.

A couple disclaimers

  • The sample size was very small (40 designers). Keep this in mind while viewing the results.
  • All prices are for design only, i.e. they don’t include any sort of coding (no HTML, no CSS, no Javascript, no PHP, etc.).
  • Folyo is an international site, and this plays a big role in pricing. A designer in Bangalore will not charge the same as a similarly skilled designer living in San Francisco. That does not mean you should always with the cheaper designer, since other factors (time difference, cultural differences, etc.) will also come into play.

How much does a logo cost?

The logo is often a startup’s first contact with designers. You need something that will look good for next month’s big presentation, and you need it fast. But how much will it cost you? 

Although survey results show you can get a logo done for less than $500, I would be careful with such a bargain. A logo will often represent your company for many years, and can set the tone for how it’s perceived. 

Plus, despite what many people think, a logo is not the same thing as a brand. Paying a higher price often means that the designer will not only come up with a logo, but think about what it means and how it can be used in different contexts (online, print, video, etc.) and provide different versions (color, black & white, etc.). 

So I would say $1000 is a good starting price point for most logo. 

How much does a homepage cost?

The homepage (or landing page) is usually the next step. It’s a more time-consuming job, so the prices are starting to creep up. Depending on the complexity, you’ll pay anything from $500 for a simple teaser to $2000 for a full-featured landing page introducing your product (think Basecamp’s homepage). 

How much does a website cost?

This is the classic question every designer dreads. Asking this is like asking an architect how much a house would cost, or a surgeon how much an operation would cost. It all depends on the specifics, so providing a straight answer isn’t easy. 

Still, assuming that a basic site usually has a homepage, a basic content template, and 1 or 2 additional layouts (pricing page, features page, etc.), we can get an idea of the costs involved. 

Count at least 30 hours of work. The homepage alone will usually eat up 15 hours (and that’s for fast workers), and each additional layout can take 3-5 hours to design. So a basic site will easily reach into the $3000-$5000 range.

How much does a mobile app cost?

A mobile app is usually simpler than a normal site, but simpler does not mean easier. In fact, the simplification process itself can be the hardest part of the project: which feature do you keep, and which one do you cut? Or if you’re going to try to fit in everything inside the mobile app, how do you keep the UI clear and uncluttered?

Also, mobile apps often have higher aesthetic expectations than websites. Although there’s nothing wrong with the default OS controls, it’s now expected that every app will have its own style and every little visual details counts. 

These factors mean that even with less pages or less contents, mobile apps are not cheaper to design than websites, and $2000 is probably a good place to start.

How much does a web app cost?

Web apps are in a pricing range of their own, with a lot of designers charging $5000 or more. The reason is that there is no such thing as a “small” web app. 

For example, the mere fact of supporting user accounts will mean having to design sign up, sign in, and “I forgot my password” screens as well as all the different error states associated with them. 

What’s more, unlike a static site, a web app must be constantly evolving and pivoting to meet user’s need and find that elusive product/market fit. So requirements are hard to pin down, and designers must often plan for unexpected new features being introduced mid-way.

And lastly, designing a web app requires a very specific profile, a hybrid UX/visual designer who can both make something look good and make it work great. 

All of this explains why this is the most expensive category, and why a $10000 design budget for a web-app is nothing out of the ordinary.

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Shikoku

Désolé pour le manque de nouvelles. On s’apprête à quitter Shikoku après avoir passé quelques jours sur cette île qui est la plus petite des quatre îles principales qui constituent le Japon. 

Shikoku est renommée pour le pèlerinage des 88 temples, qui consiste à parcourir à pied tout le tour de l’île en s’arrêtant dans chacun de ces temples au passage. Elle est aussi connue pour mettre en avant un Japon plus campagnard et reposé, loin du rythme des grandes villes. 

Mais les guides touristiques devraient être mis à jour, car d’après ce qu’on a vu la plupart des pèlerins prennent désormais le train, et les grandes villes ont toutes leur magasin Louis Vuitton…

Un petit résumé de nos aventures:

  1. Matsuyama: notre point d’arrivée, et aussi la plus grande ville de Shikoku. Connue pour son chateau et ses mandarines (mikan)
  2. Kubokawa: une petite ville tranquille où on s’est arrêté 1 heure le temps d’acheter un bento et de visiter un temple (plus que 87!)
  3. Kochi: ville tranquille près de la mer, connue pour son marché et ses fruits de mer
  4. Takamatsu: la capitale des Udon, réputée pour son jardin le Ritsurin Koen
  5. Kotohira: petite ville près de Takamatsu qui héberge un temple perché au bout de 1368 marches
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FindFreeClipart vs DRSE

I just noticed that someone copied my idea ! I have already notified my lawyers, and we will be suing shortly.

No, actually we both had the same obvious idea, and both use free google technology, so I can’t really complain.

Still, I feel like I need to defend my product, so here’s why DRSE is better.

  • Not commercial: the ads you see here don’t make me any money, they are all Google’s ads. In case you’re the type that’s annoyed by other people making money with a simple idea that you could’ve thought of, that should make you feel better.
  • Refinements: with DRSE, you can limit your search to vectors, brushes, tutorials, etc.
  • Better name: ok, DRSE doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but to me “clipart” evokes photos of people shaking hands and badly drawn animals. 
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CSE troubles

Some people have pointed out to me that Google CSEs can exhibit strange behavior, mainly omitting result compared to the regular google search. The official google position seems to be that CSE are made for 3 sites or less and are not guaranteed to be accurate for more, but since you can add an unlimited number this doesn’t make a ton of sense…

Anyway I felt it was important to be up front about this and tell you that the results you get might not always be 100% accurate (at least until the wonderful people at Google hire me to fix this).

If you want to learn more about the issue, you can check out this thread on google groups.  

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Latest Additions (April 15)

http://speckyboy.com/

www.vectorsworkshop.com

www.aiga.org/content.cfm/symbol-signs

www.briarpress.org

www.vectorvault.com

www.openclipart.org

createsk8.com

www.gomedia.us/arsenal/freestuff.php

www.webmasterpro.de

www.gfxworld.org

http://photoshopcontest.com/tutorials/photoshop-tips.html 

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Latest Additions (April 13)

Wow… requests to add sites just keep coming in !

www.iheartvector.com

creativepro.com

digital-artist-toolbox.com

www.designpicks.de

http://www.idesignhp.de 

http://www.thegraphicmac.com/ 

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Thanks for the links

Thanks to PSDtuts and Bittbox for featuring the search engine !

It’s also been saved by 133 people on delicious ! 

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Latest Additions (April 12)

www.arty.dk

fractured-sanity.org

brushes.500ml.org

http://justcreativedesign.com

http://www.thegraphicmac.com/

http://www.freevectors.net/

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New Feature: Refinements

I’ve added refinements to the search engines, which are simply tags that you set on particular websites. For now I have “free vectors”, “photoshop brushes”, and “stock photos”. Clicking on one of them after a search will limit results to sites tagged with that keyword. 

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Latest Additions (April 6)

http://melsbrushes.wordpress.com/

http://inspiredology.com/

http://www.vectorart.org/

http://www.youthedesigner.com/

http://www.ateneupopular.com/